The noise about Pastor Tunde Bakare’s venture into politics is not going down. Now, one of his people in the Pentecostal family has spoken that he is not one of them. Remember, we promised to serve you an exclusive interview with one man of God, Prophet Duromola Samuel, the General Overseer of Christ Worshippers Church situated on KM1, Osubi Road, Delta State, Thus, our reporter was in Owo, Ondo State last Thursday, where he talked with the vehement man of God on issues concerning what Pastors Bakare and Okotie did in Nigerian politics. Excerpts:
State of the Nation, what do you foresee?
The Bible says, the whole world shall pass away. His world will never pass away. The country is passing through a lot of problem since they have refused to listen to my voice, rather listen to the prophet that goes about with jet, with congregation of 10 millions. I have said that I am the lonely voice that cries from the wilderness, those that would listen would listen carefully. For the past one month, I have been fasting and praying for the country. Remember my earlier predictions, I did mention that we should pray against violence before, during and after the election, it has happened, violence before the election has happened, during the election, so many people died, that was the reason I retrace myself back home to seek the face of God in the wilderness in my home town, Owo, in order to avert the impending problems. I have left Warri now for the past one month being in the wilderness, still fasting, I would be back to Warri, after the swearing in ceremony of Mr. President. I foresee fire and violence on the way, I don’t want it to happen and I pray, it would not happened, I don’t need to tell the whole country to fast and pray because, when Jesus Christ said, he was around, the disciples need not to fast. As the spiritual president of this country, it is my duty to pray.
His predictions
There is no secret about it, what I predicted have come to pass, I was born as a prophet to deliver the message of God to the whole world, when God asked me to deliver his message, I would do it without adding or subtracting. It will surely come to pass, the secret of it, I followed the instruction as a prophet.
Talking about speaker, Dimeji Bankole, you mention in your predictions that he would go higher but he failed woefully during the election. What really went wrong?
If you look at the predictions very well, I said, he would fight the battle of his life, especially from his own base. His problems rose from his home front. I said, I prayed he should not win, if he wins the war back home, it would affect him, but as he lost out, he would go higher, not only in Nigeria but in Africa. The fight from his base would make or mar him. As it is now, he is going higher, mark my word. However, the downfall of a man is not the end of his life
The likes of Pastor Bakare, Okotie contested an election and lost out but clamoring that the elections were marred with irregularity, your comment?
If you asked question about serious people in the Christendom, I would answer you because people don’t take them serious. Pastor Bakare, Okotie are looking for money, but I don’t know the duty of pastor Bakare in Christendom, I want to know weather he is a lawyer like Paul, weather is a pastor, politician, but he is a trained lawyer, but I cannot count how many times he has been to court, weather he wants to practice law in the field of politics? As a prophet, most of his predictions were fake prophecy,. As a pastor, most of his sermons are political not biblical. Pastor Bakare, Okotie are impostors in political arena and in the house of God. Talking about Christendom, these are pastors that came in a convenience way, and they are not trained. Trained by men not God. They need to go back to Bible school and seek the face of God prayerfully. May be they think, they can speak good English, forgetting that God does not speak English alone; I don’t even know the type of sermon he is preaching. When I saw him preaching in the church recently on television, he was talking politics, they have turned the house of God to political arena, for God sake, who is this man? He should go and keep shut; he came out with Save Nigeria Group looking for recognition as an activist later turned to politician seeking for political post. I’m sure those who joined in the Save Nigeria Group project are now regretting. The so called pastor Bakare is a disgraced in Christendom. If the like of Pastor Bakare becomes the vice president of this country, I will leave Nigeria to another country and share my nationality because a bad tree will bear bad fruit, while good fruit will bear good fruit. This is a man, who came in as an activists, you see him everywhere, he is a jack of all trade, what he needs is money, nothing more and cheap popularity. He should know that power belongs to God, only Him that gives power. I am not a politician, but his members can not call him to order, imagine, he was saying on the television, that the war is not over, after he has lost, how many votes gathered in his constituency in Lagos? Go and find out, most of his members voted for President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. I thought since he has lost gallantly, he should congratulate the president, he now carried microphone preaching, of course, he preached for almost 45 minutes without a word from Bible. Jesus Christ did not preach politics, he said, we should give what belong to ceasar on ceasar. He should leave politics for politicians, go back to boardroom and retrace himself. Right now, Pastor Bakare is a confusionist, prophet of doom, let the media compare his prophecies. Now he is taking of election that was rigged. There is no election that is perfect, but the recent concluded election was directed by God, anything that got up to 80% is excellence, you cannot attain perfection in election. Even America cannot attest to it because, it happened in Florida and they were able to say something about t. President Jonathan won in all the states and for someone to be talking nonsense about it, is uncalled for, why is he calling for problem, anarchy? Times have come for this country to focus on pastors. I have said it before, EFCC should start to probe churches and they should start from my own church. Chris Okotie, on his side, he is a musician, after his records are no more selling, he turned to pastor, that was what the like of them are doing, I was told that Felix liberty now is a pastor, they would be telling people that they have 1million members in order to get money from Federal government. In the whole country, he cannot record 50,000 votes, which means, his own members do not have confidence in him. His members just go there to listen to big English form their own dictionary, people would laugh and go home. I am not here to criticize, but people like Chris Okotie should go and shut up and find something doing, I even expect somebody like him to go on exile. These are the people bringing problem to this country. They have come out to say that the election was not free and fair, imagine, they thought if they form political party like before, they would share money but the reverse is the case. I was the Apostle that clamor for any party that formed should fund itself, thereafter, they would shift to award, pastor honoring people, how many people Jesus Christ honoured? All these people want recognitions. The Bible says, we should go to the world and preach gospel, lose those that are tied, people that are disturbing the world, but they have forgetten the message, therefore, I challenge them to a debate. It is not wearing suit and tie that matters. For your information, I was highly disappointed in Pastor Bakare to have condemned the free and fair election, any other election to compare with it was June 12 election won by late Bashorun MKO Abiola. This was election won by an Ijaw man, South-South, I once predicted three years ago that Jonathan would become president, that Atiku should forget about the presidency, IBB would struggle but he cannot do anything, all these people I mentioned, the only person, I have not mentioned is General Buhari, you can see, Buhari wept, I have not seen where a general in the army wept, because he wants to be president. He was crying as if he was crying for Nigeria, but he cried for himself. However, Nigeria president is not for sale, not for the highest bidder, Nigeria president is the person God anointed. This was the message predicted in my church, today, I am not fighting for president Goodluck for anything but what God directed me to do. I can lay down my life for what God asked me to do; God had showed me any hands that rose against president Jonathan shall fall. I have said it since 2007 that he would become the president. That is the reason, people like Buhari, Bakare changing party. It is 419 people that change names.
When Obasanjo was saying, he is now a pastor, I laughed, when he was the president, how many church did he form? All of them want to be a pastor, are they really called? I have been a pastor all along, I did not acquired my degree because of any appointment, I just wanted to have the certificate, that was the reason I called myself a lonely voice that cries from wilderness, the time has come to tell people like Bakare, Okotie, Buhari to go and shut up, if truly they are called as a pastors, they should face pastoral work instead of looking for money and popularity. But for Buhari, Bakare to go to court, they would lose because whom God has blessed, no man can curse, if God opens our eyes to see how President Jonathan has been blessed, one would marvel to the glory. I have not just known him; they should allow him to rule. Anybody that tries to bring problem on his government will bring problem on his/her own heads. The hands of God is in this country now, Jonathan should form government of national unity, he should bring in technocrats to work for him, if he calls somebody like me as a minister for an appointment, he would be making a big mistake, because the only appointment, for me is to continue in the work of God.
Buhari has been saying, he would invite forensic experts in the tribunal, what are your advices to General Buhari
They are just wasting their time; I have told you that no election is perfect in the whole world, even in Greece, America. But in Nigeria, the foreign observers, and US president, Obama have said it that the election was free and fair. Do they remember they called Jesus the perfect master and he told them no one is perfect? No election can be totally free, even in our homes, it happens everywhere. What they are trying to do is just to create problem, instigate people to fight, and one thing they should known in psalm 63 verse 11, one thing God has spoken, two things I have I heard. Once God has spoken, twice have I heard this that power belongs to God? God has spoken; he had given power to President Jonathan. It all belongs to God, power belong to God and the glory. No one can change the glory of God. If Bakare calls anybody in Lagos, they would not answer him, and do you know they are laughing at him. He should go back and plan for future. Talking about Buhari, he is a military man, they don’t always surrender easily, I pity him, this was the only time, and he had done better in an election. Now he is missing out, if he had been sensible, he should had been a force to reckon with in this country, follow the likes of IBB, but saying he would not take the president to court but his party, who is the brain behind the party? They are double agent, let them go to court; they would fail, and be disgraced. if they do the election 10 times, president Goodluck would win. Buhari has forgotten that he is not fighting with PDP alone, but other parties, election of Mr. President transient party line, they did not look at the party, but individual that they voted for, I am not campaigning for him, nor PDP, I don’t belong to any political party but to Christ, enough is enough, we should forget about going to court and allow the government to settle down. We need light, good road, instead of bringing suggestions that would make things work, they are trying to divert attention, and it won’t work. Buhari is an old man, he should go and sit down, Buhari as a tall man, and he was thinking tall, that is not the issue, small man can think big, he should be given a military adviser as a professional soldier, let soldier be soldier and civilian to be civilian. I am not talking about tribalism, but let God’s will be down, let us give the government a chance.
Slained corps members were compensated with #5milion each, your reaction
What is #5million? The money that some one can give to girl friends, what rich men are donating at public functions? People like Dangote, Femi Otedola can donate #500m. I believed Mr. President made a mistake, I know he is a free giver, I knew him very well, he once attended my church when he was Deputy Governor of Bayelsa State, may be, he wanted to mention #500m each, but by mistake he said #5m, I could remember when he donated for musicians, he mentioned #200m, whereas, it was 200m dollars, I still believe there was mistake somewhere, #5m cannot do anything to the people that died for the country. They should remind him as they did during the musicians issue, the money is there, Nigeria is rich, and we should do it, the way it should be done.
All eyes on May 29 hands over date, do you foresee any trouble?
I have been praying, what happened in Eagle Square would not happen again in this country, which was the reason; I am in Owo, my home town. I have been praying for Mr. President as a man after my heart and the entire nation. Why I am using this medium to congratulate and I say congratulations, Mr. President, Dr. Ebele Azikwe Gooluck Jonathan, the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the most populous nation in Africa, why I have just been promoted as the spiritual president of Africa I have seen people planning evil but it will not happen. I saw blood now, but I have prayed over it. Mr. President, no shaking, let them say, I don’t just support president, when Obasanjo was a president, as a Yoruba man, I was one of his critics
Sir you have talked so much on Mr. President, any gratification behind it?
I saw president Goodluck last when he was the Deputy Governor of Bayelsa State when he visited my church, thereafter, he followed me with his escorts from Osubi to my private office in a room and parlor at Otumewon village. He came to my church then that was where I prophesized on him that he would become the president of this country, he came to meet me at the altar and I prayed for him. Any other anointing is fake it was my anointing on him that is working till date. He became governor without election. I have not seen him, not that I don’t have all his contacts with me, if I invite him to my church, he would oblige because, he has the fear of God. I am not predicting just because of money, but saying what God sent me. Even when late Yar’ Adua was alive, I was invited, I didn’t go, when they brought him from Saudi Arabia, I was invited to pray for him, I turned it down because, I have seen death. Also, I told them, if they give him telephone, and can say amen when I pray for him on phone, he would be okay. I am not bread and butter pastor like Chris Okotie and pastor Bakare. Since I predicted on him, I have not seen him, the last time, he sent delegations to my church during the launching, but spiritually, I see him and talk to him. Remember, I am the spiritual president of this country recently promoted as the spiritual president of Africa. But for the past days, I have been praying for him, the Bible says pray for those in the authority. I never collected any money from him, my church is very close to the Airport, but if I invite him, he would come, he has a fear of God, I know his mind. In his speech after the violence, he said enough is enough, did he take any measure after it, life is so gentle to him, they should allow him to rule, this is the only time minority will rule in Nigeria, people that produced the oil will rule, just to settle the acrimony once and for all. I never demanded for any gratification from him, God has blessed me already, we are not beggars in Ondo State, our own life is education, I am called as a prophet to prophesize , I am not afraid of death, the type of death is not matter, what matters, after death, where I am going? I have opportunity to stay in America, live in the best place in the whole world. I have visas to about 28 countries and I have visited about 58 countries in my life. I decided to be in Nigeria, precisely in Warri, if I want to make money, I won’t stay in Warri rather in Lagos or Abuja, look at me, back to my base, home town, Owo. Rumours are now flying that I have problem in Warri, no, I have been directed by the spirit of the lord, if God says I should not go to Warri, I won’t go, God direct my footsteps, I am hale and healthy. I am only home for spiritual retreat, to pray for this country.
Has EFCC performed credibly well in your own estimation?
EFCC have enough for them to chew, we should not blame them. Nigeria is the biggest country in term of population. Therefore, for EFCC to be effective, they should have more members just like police. They should have commissioners in each state, and all villages they should have post. In the absence of that the anti-graft agency cannot perform. All the places police have their station, EFCC should toe the same path. If EFCC want to work, they should start from the christiandom, they should probe me how I built my house, using hummer jeep? They should arrest all the pastors in Nigeria, and Alfas. Meanwhile, they should start with the likes of Prophet D.A. Samuel, Pastor Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Bakare and Pastor Okotie. Let them probe us first and know the men of God among us. Most people who steal money are now hiding it in the churches and mosques bank accounts. All the stolen money in this country are being kept in churches and Mosques bank account because they now realize that they cannot probe churches. It is high time the EFCC wades into it. The richest people in this country are pastors while their members are dying. Investigation should start from churches; Banks are begging churches not to close their account.
Your Message to Nigerians
They should give Jonathan chance to rule for peace to reign, in the same vein, God should come down on his own to punish fake prophets and pastors so that the whole world will know us. Finally, God should come down and take control of this country, so that Nigeria will gain and become Giant of Africa. On the part of Pastor Bakare, Okotie, my advice to them, they should repent, seek the face of God and endeavor to congratulate Mr. President. God’s grace provides us with access to the great creator and the father of our Lord Jesus Christ so that we might be conformed to the image of his son referring to Roman 5, 1-5 and Roman 8 verse 29, the handwriting is on the wall for those of us who have been called during this difficult, end-time period. What lies before us is awesome to contemplate. On the one hand, because, we know how difficult the times will be, it can be terrifying, on the other, because the result of God’s creative effort is so awesome, because, we can access his power all along the way, and because, we can be sure of victory, we have no need for irrational fear.
